Czech bishops visit Pope Francis: no prob insulting Traddies…

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Tens of thousands of saints were willing to be and were martyred for the Traditional Latin Mass and for the Byzantine Divine Liturgies, majestic liturgies that are insurmountable barriers to heresy… to date, none have directly been willing to be martyred for the Novus Ordo

As reported in Rorate Coeli, Archbishop Jan Graubner, of Olomouc, Czech Republic,  told the Czech section of Vatican Radio what the Pope told him:

 [Abp. Jan Graubner speaks:] When we were discussing those who are fond of the ancient liturgy and wish to return to it, it was evident that the Pope speaks with great affection, attention, and sensitivity for all in order not to hurt anyone. However, he made a quite strong statement when he said that he understands when the old generation returns to what it experienced, but that he cannot understand the younger generation wishing to return to it. “When I search more thoroughlythe Pope said – I find that it is rather a kind of fashion [in Czech: ‘móda‘, Italian ‘moda‘]. And if it is a fashion, therefore it is a matter that does not need that much attention. It is just necessary to show some patience and kindness to people who are addicted to a certain fashion. But I consider greatly important to go deep into things, because if we do not go deep, no liturgical form, this or that one, can save us.

This has been the first official meeting of the Czech bishops and Pope Francis since he took his office in March 2013.

The previous meeting between Czech bishops and the pope was held in 2005.

The Pope welcomed the Czech bishops headed by Duka and his predecessor Miloslav Vlk in a general audience on Wednesday already.

Friday’s closed meeting lasted 90 minutes. To his credit, the Pope said in the past the church in the Czech Lands was long oppressed by regimes based on ideologies denying human dignity and freedom [i.e. communism], while Friday there are other pitfalls such as secularism and relativism.

The new Czech centre-left government would like to lower the compensation and set several other conditions related to the use of the property.

That state-church property settlement was also spoken about in the Vatican was confirmed for Czech Television (CT) by Olomouc Archbishop Jan Graubner.

“The Pope’s stand was very simple and clear: what has been stolen, should be returned, it is a matter of justice,” Graubner said, adding that the details of church restitution were not discussed.

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